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Thursday, November 02, 2006
Sleep Advice From Dr. Marc Weissbluth

Dr. Marc WeissbluthDr. Marc Weissbluth is well known to new parents for his expert guidance on helping babies sleep soundly. His book, Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child, sits on the nightstands of sleep-deprived parents everywhere. He’ll be here next Tuesday and Wednesday to discuss healthy sleep habits for babies and he’ll have three local couples on stage with him Tuesday.

These parents are members of our Parenting Center and subscribers to our Parenting Activities email list. They responded to our call for participants and have been in consultation with Dr. Weissbluth for the past month via email. After the jump, we offer excerpts from these three sets of email exchanges in the hope they might be of use for other parents of young children with sleeping problems. 


Parent 1: As far as letting baby learn to soothe himself, I am prepared to do this in moderation if his doctor determines today that he is in good health. I am not sure I could let him cry in the evenings right now because 1) emotionally, I think I need my husband to be here with him and let me leave the apartment while he cries or I won’t be strong enough and 2) I often have to get back online and work for an hour or two as soon as possible after baby goes to sleep, so I need to use the path of least resistance most of the time. I can start with the daytime naps. I also worry that it will be a battle with baby because he has quite a bit of determination for an infant. (Just ask my nanny!) I also worry about how one determines that a baby is ready to self-soothe. Are all babies equipped to learn this at 4.5 months? If he is not, am I harming him or breaking his trust?

Dr. Marc Weissbluth: Continue to breast feed baby at night but no more than twice at night.  If you think he is hungry, nurse him anytime after 9:30 pm and again anytime early in the morning. Absolutely do not sleep with him in your bedroom and do not spend time otherwise soothing him at night. Before 9:30, after the first night feeding, and after the second night feeding it is dad’s responsibility to do ‘check and console’ whenever baby needs attention. Ignore very quiet sounds at night and dad is to respond promptly to loud fussy sounds or crying. Dad will soothe him until he is calm, drowsy but wake and leave the room.  Dad will do this as often as necessary up to about 6am when you start the day.  Do not start the day before about 6am. This plan is not for forever.

Parent 2: He goes to bed every night between 6:30 and 8pm, usually just before 7, and rarely after 7:30pm depending on the day. Most often, the first part of the night is when we get the longest stretch of sleep—only once a week or so will he wake before 11pm, and usually he wont wake until 12am-ish for a feeding. Then, i’d say half the week he goes back down until sometime between 3-5am, and then doesnt wake again until 6:30am ish when he usually plays quietly for at least 30mn. The other half of the week he wakes frequently after the midnight-ish feeding, and unless I am really exhausted or desperate, I do not feed him more than one more time—we just let him cry. He usually only cried for a few minutes, but then wakes frequently to do that.

Dr. Marc Weissbluth: Is he calm, attentive, alert, pleasant (well rested) or rough around the edges, easily frustrated, demanding, or clingy (not well rested)? Is he in your bedroom or in his own room?  How dark and quiet is the room during the day and at night?

Parent 3: We followed your instructions last night and Sam did not get out of bed or call out before he went to sleep. Actually, he was smiling as he thought about getting chocolate and TV in the morning.  At 6am, however, he came into our room and needed a diaper change.  He may have also heard his sister as she was up early. We also noticed that his bed was wet so we put him in the bed next to his and told him that he had to go back to sleep until it was light out for the reward. At 6:30 he came downstairs to the playroom where I was with his sister. It wasn’t quite light but it was an improvement. I gave him the reward. Do you think I should have withheld as it was not 7am? He really never slept or stayed in bed until 7am before. I tried to use the alarm clock but he plays with it so much that it gets messed up and ends up not working. I thought to use the “when it is light” outside rule. Any thoughts?

Dr. Marc Weissbluth: Thank you for the information. It appears that if you compare the past few weeks with past few years there has been much improvement for him. Unfortunately, I do not think the present improvement will persist or get better unless you make further changes. The reason I say this is because you are sending him mixed messages. You recite the Sleep Rules but he still gets a reward even though he violates them. This will cause him eventually to ignore the rules completely as he habituates to the reward. That is, the reward will eventually lose the power to motivate him to change his behavior because he gets it anyway. How do you feel about this interpretation?

My strong recommendation is to explain to him that tonight he is rewarded in the morning only for complete cooperation with the Sleep Rules.

[Dr. Marc Weissbluth: Sleep Smarts: 11/07/06]
[Dr. Marc Weissbluth’s Twin Talk: 11/08/06]



Comments Reader Comments

I am returning to work this week and am trying to sleep train my 2 1/2 month old son.  Should I be attempting to do this for naps as well as at night or just at night?  Please help!  I don’t want to spend my last 3 days at home with him listening to him cry if I don’t have to.  However, if I would really like him to be able to soothe himself to sleep once I start leaving him with the nanny.  Thanks.

By Rebecca at March 05, 2007, 10:19am

My daughter is 6 weeks old.  I am reading Dr. Weissbluth’s book and am wondering how to start putting her down at 6:30-7:00 at night. If her last feeding was 2 hours prior, should I try to put her down for the night or wait until the next feeding?  Is she too young to start sleep training?  She naps very little during the day, sometimes only two cat naps for 20 minutes.  I see her drowsy signs, and know she must be getting over tired, but when I put her down her eyes pop open and she fights falling back to sleep.  I have tried letting her fuss, but I think she is still to young to soothe herself.  I want to help her with achieve healthy sleep habits, is it too soon?

By Kristin at March 07, 2007, 7:55am

I am having major nap problems!! I have read “Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child” and it was very helpful for our nighttime sleep problems, but I can’t get my 13 month old to sleep in his crib during the day for more than half an hour, and it involves alot of crying!! When he wakes after half and hour he is soooo tired and won’t fall back asleep, even if I let him cry or hold his hand. He only sleeps in the car or the stroller during the day! I tried for a whole week to only let him sleep in the crib with no progess. I’m lost, and tired!! Please help!!

By Meagan at March 16, 2007, 1:41pm

I have a 3 month old son who appears to get overstimulated very easily. He can only be awake for 1-1/2 hours at a time. The evenings are very tricky to get him into bed before it’s too late. He still crys though. Is it too early to let him cry it out? Does antone know about overproduction of cortisol as a result of being overtired? Is it damaging? When does it improve?

By katherine at April 02, 2007, 10:29pm

I have a 32 month old toddler. We had several sleep issues, but as he has gotten older most of the night problems are gone. However, he only naps for about 45 - 50 minutes and then wakes up. I know he needs to sleep more because the times when he has slept for about 1 hour to 1 and 1/2 hours he wakes up happy and friendly and when he sleeps for less than this than one hour he is very grumpy. The problem is that I can never get him to go back to sleep. I have just began putting him in his crib and letting him cry, but this has not helped. I used to nurse him to sleep before. Should I let him cry to sleep after he wakes up the first time?

By Astrid at April 09, 2007, 2:41pm

My daughter slept through the night by about 3 months, and I always tried to do everything right to make sure she would have good sleep habits.  But around 7 mths she started waking during the night and is still doing this at 13 months.  I have never nursed her and try not to even pick her up during these wakings, but it’s not getting better.  Some nights it’s just 2 times, some nights 5-6 times.  She will just scream until we come in and lay her back down, and stand there until she falls back asleep.  If I try to move away or sit down she’s back up screaming.  When I’ve tried to let her keep crying, she cries for up to 3 hours.  I have a 3 year old right next to her who is a very light sleeper, so I have trouble with this.  What can I do???

By Nicole Stemper at April 22, 2007, 5:04pm

Dear Dr. Wiessbluth,

I have a 26 month old son who up until three weeks ago went to sleep at 7:00 p.m. sharp.  We have followed your Healthy Sleep Habits book from the moment he was born and have a well established bedtime routine.  He naps from 12:00 - 2:00 and sometime only for about 1.5 hours at daycare.  He wakes between 5:30 and 6:30 daily.

About three weeks ago he started not falling asleep right away.  Now he’s taking until 8 or even 8:30 until he falls asleep.  He isn’t cranky but I’m confused as to why it changed and if I should move his bedtime to 8:00?

Do you have any advice?

Thanks,

Tracy

By Tracy at April 25, 2007, 8:16pm

Hello Dr. Weissbluth:

I have a 5 1/2 month old little girl.  She sleeps pretty well, but I do have some questions and concerns regarding her daytime naps. 

I’ve read your book, “Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child”.  I followed your advice and it worked very well for me.  She does not need a soother or me to fall asleep anymore, she does it on her own which is fantastic!  And she sleeps a lot longer and better!

She goes down at night between 6:30 pm and 7:00 pm and she is up once for a feeding.  She will also sometimes wake up a couple of times before midnight, but I try to not go to her and let her get back to sleep on her own.

She usually starts her day between 6:00 am and 6:30 am. I don’t go to her until 6 am like you mentioned in your book.  But I hear her mostly every morning at around 5:30 am playing in her crib. The odd times she will sleep until 6 am or a little after. 

With her waking up so early, I have a hard time keeping her awake until 9 o’clock for her first nap.  By 8:30 am she needs to go to sleep and she will sleep until 10 - 10:30 am.

She rarely makes it until 1 pm for her afternoon nap, she is usually asleep by 12:30 pm and will sleep for about an hour.

My question is regarding the third nap. Does she need a late afternoon nap or should I skip it, I try to put her down between 3 and 4 pm, but sometimes it takes a while for her to fall asleep.  This nap is never long, (1/2 hour - 45 min’s), If she doesn’t get a third nap she gets really cranky by 4 o’clock. 

I’m not sure what to do in the late afternoon, do I skip the 3rd nap and make her bedtime earlier or do I keep doing what I’ve been doing and put her down for the night between 6:30 and 7:00 pm?  I was also wondering if the 3rd nap was causing her to wake up a few times before midnight which she never used to do.

I hope you can help me!

By Sylvette at April 27, 2007, 2:36pm

Hello, I have a six month old daughter, who is having a very difficult time napping.  For the first 5 1/2 months, she had naps in a sling or a stroller.  She sleeps at night for 12 but usually 13 hours.

I have read Dr. Weissbluth’s book, and am putting her to nap in the morning at 9:30 (we have to take her sister to preschool which begins at 9), after soothing her, etc.  She will sleep for 20 minutes.  One time she slept for 45.  This is where I don’t know what to do.  I have left her to cry for another 30 - 60 minutes - she just screams.  I have left her for a shorter chunk of time - she still screams.  I try to soothe her back to sleep, put her down, and I leave her screaming for another 30 - 60 min.  Or I just pick her up ( because she always wakes up screaming - except after night time) and nurse her or cuddle her. 

This happens each nap time - she is on no schedule because her naps are so short (and not even considered a nap!) and she is very tired within an hour or less of when she wakes.  So I put her down for another nap!!  Sometimes she has three naps a day, sometimes two.  She is always in bed by 6:00 or 6:30 and sleeps until 7:30 a.m.

I’m not sure how to get her to nap longer.  If you have any advice I would really appreciate it.  It gets very tiring “worrying” about napping!!  And I see that she is unhappy for a lot of the day.

Thank you VERY much.

Christine (and Courtney)

By christine lesniewski at April 30, 2007, 6:58pm

We’ve been applying Dr. Weissbluth’s methods and our 9 month old now sleeps MUCH better.  Big improvement over 20 minute naps during the day and only 8 hours at night!  She’ll now take two good quality naps and sleep 11.5 hours at night.  Our problem currently is that she can’t last past 5:30 p.m. and then wants to get up at 5:00 a.m.  It’s been getting earlier and earlier on both ends (used to sleep 6:00 p.m. to 5:30 a.m.).  How can we fix this and shift her to a later wake up time?  Thanks!

By Heidi at May 07, 2007, 7:54am

Hello Dr. Weissbluth,

My name is Nhon Lam and I am a chiropractor.  I recently became a proud father of a fussy baby and like to thank you for writing such a helpful book.  I am quite baffled by why you threw in chiropractic spinal manipulation as part of your “nonsense section” on ineffective remedies.  You devoted a whole section of your book towards infant massage as a very soothing thing to do.  Why can’t chiropractic care be soothing?  Chiropractic spinal manipulation or any type of manipulation promotes muscle relaxation and joint nutrition.  Why can’t this be a good or “soothing” thing for a baby?  Please respond.

Sincerely,

Nhon Lam

By Nhon Lam at May 14, 2007, 1:48pm

Dear Dr. Weissbluth,

I found your book a complete blessing!!
This is my 2nd child, my fiance’ and I had a routine and everthing was going very well with our son.  Naps, bedtime, etc.  Very unexpectatedly my fiance’ passed away not even a month ago; May 18th 2007.  Our son is only 6 months old, however, I know he misses his daddy and is grieving also.  Forget about his “schedule”....he doesn’t really have one anymore. I keep everything the same to give him the comfort knowing we are still home.

My more little guy, Brayden, is usually in bed by 8:00pm, now it’s much later-whenever I can get him from screaming so loud and gasping for air to comfort him to sleep.  He wakes up many times during the night and each time wants a bottle even if it may be a few sips.  Then, with the hours I’ve slept still able to count on one hand, he’s crying to get up for the day--most of the time it’s not even 6:00am!  His naps are usually a fight now also, unless he is just to tired and just gives in.  Then they last for 15 minutes--30 if I’m lucky! 

What am I to do??  I know we’re both missing Dad terribly, but I cannot grieve because I’m going through this pretty much alone.  I am physically, mentally, and emotionally worn out.  WE CANNOT GO ON THIS WAY :(

Please, I’m begging you Dr. Your advise worked for us a few months ago.  How do I get him back on schedule during this very painful time in our lives?  Does he know what’s going on?  We were a very close family--he was Papabear’s babybear.  Now I’m begging for your help to keep Mamabear and babybear healthy and finally get some sleep.

Please, any suggestions and/or advise is greatly appreciated and welcomed.

Sincerely,

Jessica & Brayden

By Jessica Hunt (PLEASE READ THIS!) at June 16, 2007, 11:30pm

Hello,
I have a 3 1/2 month old (born at 37.5 weeks), Brody, who will not go to sleep unless he is in a deep sleep from me shhing and holding him or if he falls asleep nursing.  Half the time he wakes up when I try to burp him.  He is so gassy.  He doesn’t love the pacifier.  He doesn’t seem to like to be swaddled anymore since he tries to break free from it.  I try to use your advice from your book but my soothing seems to get him irritated.  I have just started doing this sleepy but awake routine.  Can I do it if he sleeps on his belly?  He will only sleep for long periods of time on his belly.  I have chosen to let him do so.  He has been sleeping through the night for about a month now.  Some days his naps don’t last very long, if at all and other days he will sleep for hours.  I try to put him down between 8:00 and 9:00 P.M. after a bath and nursing.  He will sleep through until 5-8 in the morning.  I am beginning to feel frustrated because I can’t get him to fall asleep on his own.  My husband helps me take turns at night with this but I still am emotionally drained from doing it all day long.  If he is not completely asleep, he will wake up, especially if I put him on his back.  He had slept in his bassinett until 7 weeks old and now we put him in his crib or pack-n-play on the bassinett, on his belly.  I don’t want to go from sleeping through the night to him waking up several times at night.

Any advice for me would be greatly appreciated!  I love your book but feel that I could use more guidance.

Sincerely,
Angie, Shawn and Brody

By Angie McMullin at August 04, 2007, 12:12pm

I have been following the advice in your book all the time.  Now I’m having problems with her morning nap.  In general with the naps.  She was napping really well until about 3 weeks ago.  She was going for naps around 9 and again at 1 or 2, but recently she doesn’t want to take her morning nap.  She sleeps really well at night.  She goes to bed between 5 to 5:30 in the afternoon until 5:30 to 6am next day, I keep her awake unitl 8:30 to 9:00 and then I put her in her crib.  She doesn’t fall asleep at all, she doesn’t cry but she doesn’t take her nap.  She stays in her crib for 1 hour and 30 minutes but that’s all.  She then take her afternoon nap between 12 to 1 for 1 hour and then she goes to bed at 5 or 5:30pm.  I would like to know what to do that she can take the morning nap or she will not take a morning nap anymore?

By Lynnette at August 12, 2007, 8:23pm

I am at the end of my rope with my five month old son Kayden. I have your book and have read it several times, i belive firmly in your message and know that my sons fussy attitude is due to lack of sleep. at 4 months Kayden was on a regular schedule of bedtime at 7:00 pm and sleeps until 7:00 am the following morning, his nights are always restless with much tossing and turning, without ever waking up! When he gets up he is in a generally good mood until about an hour later when he starts to get fussy ive tried putting him down right then at 8 am and he goes down nicely but is up in 45 mins ive also tried keeping him up till 9 am again goes down nicely then up in 45 mins.. ive tried everything to keep him asleep for longer and nothing seems to work. Ive also considered he may just be a short napper and does not need longer but if this is the case why does he seem to wake up cranky and stay that way for the duration of the day… also if a child does sleep at 8 and wakes up at 9 when does the afternoon nap start?? Please help, im desperate-----Jennifer Tigges

By Jennifer Tigges at August 20, 2007, 11:42am

Dear Dr. W.,
I have read your books, and they have helped my 7 month old son (who was born 5 weeks early) greatly.  He goes down now at 6:30 every night, and sleeps until 4:15 a.m., or all the way through the night sometimes.  Naps had been going great too, except that just yesterday, he screamed when I put him down for his morning nap, and continued to scream for the next hour!  Everything was normal about the morning routine, and I thought he might be in pain (he is drooling a ton, so I think may be teething) so I went in twice during the hour to soothe him, but to no avail.  He just kept screaming, and has done it again this morning...any advice?  I shouldn’t let him cry longer than an hour, right?  (It’s hard to let him cry for an hour, but I know he needs to sleep.) He’s been MUCH happier since I read your book and he’s been getting the rest he needs.  Thank you for all you do!
Jessica C.

By Jessica at August 30, 2007, 10:35am

My 5.5 month old son is a terrible sleeper night and day. He goes down at 6:30 or 7 and wakes at 6 am. His naps are all over the place. We have tried your method, but he can’t make it past about 2 hours of awake time so he has 4 naps of 30-40 minutes a day. We have been letting him have the nap hour for 2 months with very little success. A few times a week he has a nap of an hour or longer, but mostly he has 4 short naps or 3 short and one long. Even if we give him the hour, he only goes back for another 30-40 minutes for a total of 1 hour and 10 or 1 hour and 20. Even on the very few times he has had 2 long naps, he is so tired after only 2 hours so we can’t make it to bedtime without a 4th nap. He is so fussy by the end of the day. Any advice? We have tried to keep him up longer than 2 hours, shorter that 2 hours, everything. I know he can nap longer as he has done it before.
Also, we let him cry at night and he’ll cry for hours, even if he has just been fed. The next day he is so tired. Should I put him down earlier if he has been up crying for any length of time the night before?

By Jennifer at August 30, 2007, 7:05pm

My 4 month old wakes up any where from 3 to 10 times a night needing her pasifier. We are exhausted. Any suggestions?

By Randi Thomas at September 08, 2007, 8:50am

I am curious if there are plans to have ‘Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child’ available in other languages (more specifically in French). My cousin in France had a horrible time with her first child and now that the second is born I would like to help her out by giving her the book...it has been invaluable to me with both my first and second child.

By Kristina at September 30, 2007, 9:57pm

My daughter is nearly 22 months old.  Until 8 weeks ago she fell asleep on her own day and night and napped (1 nap) very well.  She is still sleeping well at night but will not nap.  She will cry or play but won’t sleep. She does not do well in the afternoon and would be happy to go to bed by 5 pm and sleep until 7 am.  How do I get her napping again?

As far as routine, here is what changed: I started watching a little baby (9 wks ago), she gave up her pacifier, and all four of her 2 yr molars came in.

I am very frustrated with this situation and am not sure what to do.  I’ve tried earlier and later bedtimes (4-5 days at a time) and earlier/later nap times but nothing is working.  I feel like I am going to fall apart and she isn’t looking well.  Her Ped says she is fine and his advice is to either sleep with her, rock her to sleep, or give up.  The first two are impossible since I have the other baby.  What should I do?  How can I help her be better rested?

Thank you, Reagan Kaufman

By Reagan Kaufman at October 08, 2007, 3:35pm

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